I want to travel back in time and see the dinosaurs

I always loved dinosaurs as a kid and seeing them for real would be awesome!

I would like to be able to go back in time and take some priceless artifact that I could bring back with me for lots of cash.

martin wrote:I would like to be able to go back in time and take some priceless artifact that I could bring back with me for lots of cash.

I think there might be a paradox there, if you take the artifact it might not be widely known what it is or who made it now-a-days, but if you take it when it was widely known and steal it and people would think it was lost in time until you magically find it in your backyard or so you would say

I'd go back and visit my 10 year old self and give her encouragement in regards to her lack of real friends and that sort of thing.

I'd also go back to watch my parents on their scout trip to Nepal, which was when my Mum was about my age and before they started dating. It'd be fun to see the dynamic between them, and what they were really like when they were young.

There are probably other times I'd go to if I had a time machine, but I can't think of any others at the moment.

You think too much derr.

I wouldn't want to see my parents when they were young... Some things are better off left not seen.

My mum was pretty hot when she was younger, I've seen pictures. Dad was a looker too apparently - mum has said that she wasn't the only girl with her eye on him back in rovers hahaha

rovers?

It's the name for scout groups with people in it who are 18-24ish

Your parents were in scouts together?

Yeah, that's how they met. A whole group of them went on a hiking trip thing to Nepal once. Mum probably wouldn't have gone if Dad didn't

Wouldnt a scout group with people that are over 18 years old be considered the military?

I would wait until I am as old as I could be and hire someone who's family had no connection to the Second World War.

I would send them back in time to shoot Hitler dead.

My theory is, is if Hitler is killed, I would not exist.

Knowing the suffering my family has gone through is just so sad for me, so it is a selfless sacrifice I am willing to make.

I also don't think my Mum and her brothers and sisters would exist, so I were to go back now and kill Hitler, they would disappear. Being really old, they would already have passed on.

Wait... what?

Emilia you can't say that for sure. Besides, preventing one world war could very well start another.

Narurin, you said you would go back in time to your 10 year old self to...do something I wasn't paying attention. Now you know though that this will never happen. If you ever did time travel and tell your 10 year old self that stuff then you would remember seeing yourself from the future when you were 10. Therefore, it isn't going to happen.

I'm sorry I took the fun out of this.

If they ever did make a time machine though, it would need to be something like out of this book I read called Jumpman (I think that was it). The time travellers were out of synch with the world they travelled to so that they couldn't change anything.

Kingfrozen wrote:Wait... what?

Emilia you can't say that for sure. Besides, preventing one world war could very well start another.

You don't know my family's history or how I came to be.

I would very likely be dead.

No one can stop another war happening. There are lots happening now.

[GE:S] MaJoR wrote:Wouldnt a scout group with people that are over 18 years old be considered the military?

Scouts has nothing to do with the defence force lol, it's totally separate

Kingfrozen wrote:

Narurin, you said you would go back in time to your 10 year old self to...do something I wasn't paying attention. Now you know though that this will never happen. If you ever did time travel and tell your 10 year old self that stuff then you would remember seeing yourself from the future when you were 10. Therefore, it isn't going to happen.

I'm sorry I took the fun out of this.

It would work. If I were to straighten my hair and put on makeup, my 10 year old self wouldn't recognise me. Which is the whole point really - I'll be telling her that things will improve and that she's awesome the way she is, that her eccentricities are what her friends will love her for, and what her family loves her for right now (and other things of that fashion). In the long run it probably won't change me all that much, but I really struggled with my confidence and self esteem back then. Plus going back would mean I could visit my old house and primary school and the library and various other places where I spent a lot of time. That'd be cool because the town has changed a lot in the last 10 years.

Now, since I won't recognise myself, seeing my future self probably won't cause a paradox or whatever, because I won't know who I am.



Emilia, I don't think killing Hitler would prevent WW2 or the holocaust. We studied this in high school - Hitler's political party won the election or whatever because they promised to lift Germany out of the depression. When they won power, they all got big headed, used the Jewish people as scapegoats and arrested and killed anyone who disagreed with them. I think a lot of this would have happened without Hitler, the world war certainly would have still happened, it was effectively a knee jerk reaction to the Treaty of Verseilles. And on a personal note, I would not exist either if World War Two happened, and neither would my entire family and extended family. Hell, Australia would be completely different and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that our migration policies would be significantly different if we didn't have the post-war influx of migrants from Europe. Not to mention Australia's culture would be much more 'us vs them' without that group of migrants.
I think changing history that much is too dangerous, it's impossible to know what will happen.

I think Emilia's plan to kill Hitler might be another paradox... *over-think time*

If you hired people to go back in time to kill Hitler then you might not exist, then you wouldn't exist to hire them so Hitler would exist, but then you would exist and you could hire them but if Hitler got killed you wouldn't exist, its just an endless paradox.

Time travel is full of confusion and paradoxes. But the way I see it, when you are travelling back in time, you are not turning back time in your world, but you are travelling into another dimension which is the past of your dimension, as if time is the 4th dimension in space. According to that, changing something in the past will not affect the time that you are from because it is a parallel dimension. So, in that case there is no real point in changing the past because it will not affect the dimension that you come from, you can only affect the dimension that you visit, so unless you intended to stay in this new dimension then there is no real point to change the past as it will not affect you. Unless you just want to change the past for entertainment value to see how it would affect the world.

That is why I wouldn't bother attempting to change the past because I believe in the theory that there is an infinite number of dimensions covering all possibilities. So, the best way to use time travel is to take something and bring it back with you so that you could use it back in your dimension for your own benefit and what better way is there to go far into the past and take some priceless artifact that had been lost from all civilization etc. You'll be rolling in the cash then.

The Derr Man wrote:I think Emilia's plan to kill Hitler might be another paradox... *over-think time*

If you hired people to go back in time to kill Hitler then you might not exist, then you wouldn't exist to hire them so Hitler would exist, but then you would exist and you could hire them but if Hitler got killed you wouldn't exist, its just an endless paradox.

Fine. I'll do it myself

If I could Travel back in Time, I would go to 300 BC and leave a homopolar dynamo and a rechargeable battery outside of a philosophers hall. They would probably figure it out. Then I would come back to today to see just how far across the stars we had traveled.

Speaking of which, how do you think time Travel works? If you try to go back in time to kill your parents before you were born, what would happen?

A) Your parents die, and you suddenly disappear. Life goes on without you or your family.
B) Your parents die, and you travel back into your time to find things have changed- nobody knows who you are.
C) Your parents die, and a paradox ensues. The universe explodes
D) You can't kill your parents. You try, but you keep failing. You can't change any of the facts about your own life.
E) Time travel is impossible.

All of those options are equally likely.

Back to the Future used the first theory, and an Animorphs book where the characters went back in time used the fourth theory.

But I reckon...Oh I don't know lol, it's too complicated. But I definately don't think that it's E

Hmm.. I would say E is the most likely. I put it to you that 1 and 2 fall into the time travelers paradox. if A, how can it be that your family died, given their killer didn't even exist? If B How was it you were born that your parents never had kids? In both situations there exists a situation that has no cause, but if the cause doesn't exist, neither can the effect.

C and D are smarter, but C seems to require the breaking of a lot of laws of physics, and D needs lots of coincidences to just randomly happen. How is it that you could keep trying to effect your parents, but you are unfortunate enough to keep failing each time? How can luck be against you each time? Who is managing that? God?

I think then, the E is easiest. Paradoxes don't exist in the real world. When we arrive at them in our mind, it realities way of letting us in that we've done something wrong. The easiest way to avoid the paradoxes is to just say that time travel doesn't happen at all.

Please speak out if you disagree.

I choose none of your options Squigle, but my own.

The way I see it, if we were to be able to travel back in time, we would not be turning back time in our world, but we would be travelling into another parallel dimension which is the past of our dimension because the fact is, just by going back in time and being there, we are affecting the world and changing it.

So, the way I see it is if you were to go back in time and kill your parents, you would affect that dimension, changing it entirely, in which you will not be born in the future of that dimension and everything will act normally according to what you changed. But if you were to go back to where you came from, nothing would have changed there, because that is the future of a dimension in which your parents were not killed.

In this sense there is an infinite number of dimensions which cover all possibilities. This makes the most sense to me because it makes the idea of time travel more possible and there would be no paradox, it wouldn't break any law of physics.

That being said, I don't think time travel is possible, but you never know.

Although, maybe all dimensions are connected some way, so affecting one dimension will affect another.

I disagree with that entirely. All I think that you could do would be pass things through from one dimension to the other, but not entirely affect it because of something that happened in another dimension.